The Twin Curves

Look at the US Treasury Yield curve and the Oil Futures curve. They are both so steep you’d need a rope and a pair of sharp crampons to climb them. While we know there are no pat answers for the shape of any curve, and while one does not want to be overly simplistic, these two curves tell me that much more inflation and much more growth are coming than you will gleen from reading today’s newspaper.

Over the past few weeks, the US Treasury Yield curve has been steepening to 10 year highs, around 350 basis points. Meanwhile, the 8 year Oil Futures Curve is in a kind of Super Contango, with DEC 2016 currently over 50% higher in price than DEC 2008 oil.

Most global investors will soon find themselves trying to figure out how to obtain sufficent income in a world where the purchasing power of cash is not likely to improve much further from here. Granted, the purchasing power of cash has had a huge 120 day run here. Truly phenomenal. Those are not the kinds of moves that tend to last, however. The bull market in cash still looks very, very counter-trend to me.

I’m now favoring the 1972-74 bear market, as the model for our current condition. Everyone else is fully entranced with the Deflationary bear market and economy of 1929-1928. I don’t buy it. The FED was only 15+ years young at that point. The US was like a volatile, emerging market back then. The Pound Sterling was the reserve currency. The FED, and the President(s) took several years before they even figured out what was going on, what the risks were.

Question to the New Deflationists: do you really think it’s a coincidence that most bear markets and economic downturns since the 1930’s have had inflationary characteristics? Whether you got inflation immediately, like in 72-74, or soon thereafter, like in 1990-92 or 2000-02, why do you suppose that’s the case? My answer: people learn “lessons” from history. And so has the FED.

Without the 1930’s there would be no such person as Ben Bernanke. He wouldn’t exist. His ideas wouldn’t exist.

As everyone studies black and white photographs of the 1930’s with those images of exhausted people, dust storms, and despair–I continue to prepare for lots more inflation.

-Gregor

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  • gregor.us
    Hi,

    The blog is updating every day. You just need to go to the front page which is here: www.gregor.us

    You might also like to read the article I wrote yesterday for the FT of London: The state of Uranium.

    Regards,

    G
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  • Great post! I totally agree.

    The only thing missing from your post are the curves to look at.
  • shanks
    I agree oil is going up, but ..

    If inflation is coming, why is the yield on the 5yr TIPS higher than the yield on the 5yr nominal treasury (3.44% versus 2.32% according to http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h15/upda...

    The bond market is pricing in medium term deflation followed by low inflation in the longer term (10yrs). And the bond market is way smarter than I am.
  • gregor.us
    Shanks, re-read your second paragraph very, very closely. :-)

    After you have done that, then read the following article, which gets into the skyrocketing inflation expectations now being reflected in TIPS.
    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/JK1...

    The bond market is hopefully smarter than all of us, hopefully at all times.

    G
  • I have no insight to add, just a metaphor & quick note.

    Your posts seem like fish Gregor, fish you give away, back of the text-book-like-fish.

    Rod in hand, bait & bucket...I want to learn how to find & read the caliber of material that you find and read.

    Thanks for sharing your insights and articles.
  • shanks
    Gregor, I read the article. And re-read my post. Very, very closely.

    I still have too many questions to post here, but I think I’m beginning to understand.

    Altho if I was buy&hold then 5yr TIPS at 3.40% would look cheap to me.
  • Ben
    Shanks,
    I also pored over your comment as well as the asian times article several times and I am afraid I am just too dense as to concretely understand why the TIPS rate would reflect inflation rather then deflation. Maybe the article suggests that the massive global deleveraging has led to a sell-off of TIPS with all of the other assets, suggesting the last month is an outlier in the broader trend. But I still can't unlock the key in your second paragraph. What is your or anyone else's theory?
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  • AndrewG
    In both the 30s and the 72-74 period we had a current account surplus. I doubt that our debtors will look favorably upon devaluation at this point. In addition, the energy situation is even worse now than it was in either of those periods. Bernanke has learned from history, to be sure, but these are two significant constraints on his reflationary intuition that you aren't considering.
  • gregor.us
    Hi Andrew,

    Are you aware that the FED has already moved to quantitative easing measures? Have you see the FED's balance sheet? If you are familiar with both of these concepts/measure do you agree or disagree that constraint is a point we have already passed.?

    I do very much agree with you that we are constrained. But, with Trillions on the FED's balance sheet and every indication that they are no longer sterilizing the expansion of the balance sheet, at what point do our creditors balk?

    Check google news for a story today on Obama bonds.

    Best,

    G
  • To confirm, you'd say buy $dbo sooner rather than later??
  • gregor.us
    Hi Bob,

    I have no advice on timing on when to go long oil. As you may have noticed, I rarely if ever mention stocks of ETFs in my posts. My view is that markets are in turmoil and that most prices on most assets are distressed level prices. Which is really just a valuation call, not a timing call.

    Best,
    G
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