Black Jack Rail

For those of you tracking the fortunes (or misfortunes) of Rail this week in the Stimulus Package, some resolution arrived last night. House and Senate negotiators brought the bill to its final form. And this is what I’ve learned. First, the attempt to knock Rail spending down from 13B below 10B was not successful. Good news. Second, a new chunk of money appeared suddenly for High-Speed Rail. 8 billion dollars worth. Sounds like good news. But where did this come from? And why?

Boston Red Sox catcher Birdie Tebbets (L) and Walt Dropo playing cards while riding train to next game.

The chatter overnight is that Harry Reid, Senate Majority leader from Nevada, was able to secure this new item. The reason: he and his constituents have had their eye for some time on a Las Vegas-Los Angeles high-speed rail line.

I’m not really for high-speed rail, and I’m not against it either. High-speed rail just happens to be low on my rail hierarchy, which starts with Commuter Rail, then Light Rail, then Heavy Rail, and finally High-Speed Rail. My reasoning is simple: the efficacy of rail investment is measured in how many car trips can be wiped out by each new line. In addition, there is a multiplier effect on other motorists who will spend less time on the road as a result of de-congestion. The value proposition of rail therefore is to capture productivity along the entire energy-time spectrum. This is usually best done in cities.

How would a Las Vegas to Los Angeles high-speed rail line measure up, in this regard? In my conversations with fellow Twitterers yesterday, Stuart MacDonald of Tripharbour.ca in Toronto pointed out that Las Vegas to Los Angeles is one of the busiest, if not the busiest leisure travel route in the United States. Assuming that’s the case, this would mean an enormous amount of auto and air trips are made each week on this route. (less so in a recession, obviously.)

My guess is going to be that, despite the heavy traffic on the Las Vegas to Los Angeles corridor, the five cities I’ve identified previously, Seattle, SF Bay, LA-Orange-SD Counties, Dallas-Ft Worth, and Miami, would be able to capture greater annual economic value were they hit with new Commuter and Light Rail lines. In addition, it’s very difficult to see the merit in LA-LV high-speed rail before SD-LA-SF high-speed, East Coast high-speed, or high-speed that comes out of Chicago and goes either to St Louis, or east to either New York or Washington. That said, there is a ton of heavy lifting to be done here with data. Data, however that does not seem readily available.

It appears the nation is going to have to produce a greater quantity of transportation economists, and analysts, on the way to any meaningful transition (back) to passenger rail. I welcome any data readers can supply on key automobile routes such as LA-SF and LA-LV.

-Gregor

Photo: Boston Red Sox catcher Birdie Tebbets (L) and Walt Dropo playing cards while riding train to next game. By Francis Miller. LIFE Magazine. 1950.

Upate: 18 February 2009 High-Speed Rail Corridor Designations from the Federal Railroad Administration.

  • Legalize gambling in LA, and tax winnings heavily. Poof, the need for a LA-LV rail evaporates, along with many unproductive hours, and it moves the LV water shortages to the coast...where the new tax dollars could justify desalination investment.

    In other words...Instead of figuring out how to move gamblers and water to the desert faster, keep the gamblers on the coast, with the water.

    How many birds was that, with one stone?
  • gregor.us
    Las Vegas has no future. We might as well face up to it now. Indeed.

    G
  • and don't even get me started on how this could help the cali budget situation... :)
  • "It appears the nation is going to have to produce a greater quantity of transportation economists, and analysts," I must disagree. Economists an analysts are what got us into this mess. We don't need more over-educated prima donnas (yes I have a degree). What we need are people with common sense that have real world experience.

    I totally agree about Las Vegas.
  • Spencer
    Perhaps the few barriers that exist in building high speed rail through the desert make it a good concept project. Success here may soften people to the benefits modern rail can bring in more developed/commuter focused areas.
  • gregor.us
    Very good point. Because I have only once or twice briefly suggested that HS Rail may have advertising and cultural persuasion value that extends beyond its cost, I've been meaning to pursue that idea in a separate post. Indeed, the public needs to see a beautiful rail line that works. If they can see one, then, they'll want one for themselves. In addition, just as you say, topography from LA to LV is cleaner of existing infrastructure. So, the US would get a chance to build its first HS rail in an less cluttered landscape.

    Would you like to model the advertising and persuasion value that would attend a successful, showcase type project? You could always just take a SWAG.

    Thanks.

    G
  • i'm in the DFW area and would definitely agree with your assessment regarding value from commuter or light rail. What would be your second tier list of cities after those 5?
  • gregor.us
    There's a map that's out now showing the designated HS corridors. Link here, and will append to the story.

    http://www.fra.dot.gov/us/content/203

    The next 5 cities for commuter and light rail(or more of these added to existing lines) that I would choose, would likely begin with Charlotte, NC. Then perhaps 1-3 Florida cities besides Miami. Boston could use 1-2 more commuter rail lines.

    G
  • bainer
    DC/VA/Maryland would get my vote, followed by Houston and Phoenix areas. I can't speak with knowledge about other American cities but can imagine a mississippi river train line connecting the midwest north to south.

    Thanks for the insight Gregor.
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